Curse

kazjun · Dec 01, 2006, 02:26 AM // 02:26

Don't really care if he's a rit, I'll still get him anyway. As for whether he gets used or not...well, it's not like I use all my heroes right now anyway.

As for armour, new player armour would have been nice, but I pretty much expected it to be hero armour as soon as it was announced. It's been posted all over that heroes had 3 armour skins, so with the default and the challenge mission armours making 2, you knew that one more set was going to be introduced somewhere. Which is good, I like more hero armour. They deserve the best for coming with me to hell and back.

Um, as long as it's not like the ruins of sahlajah challenge mission. That thing has annoyed me to no end, though it has boosted my lightbringer total since after about an hour of doing it I have to go an kill stuff to cool down.

Lyonette · Dec 01, 2006, 02:31 AM // 02:31

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Originally Posted by Scutilla

It's also sad that so many people are complaining about the lack of new armor, when they never said there would be new armor in the first place. Maybe ANet should never tell us anything until it actually happens to avoid misinterpretation?

maybe anet needs to be abit clearer when they want to drop hints to avoid misinterpretation... i mean c'mon... intially they said "new armor upgrade options"... what do you expect us to think?

Avarre · Dec 01, 2006, 02:35 AM // 02:35

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Originally Posted by black_mamba

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suffer? useless? I dont know about you, but I think rits are very usefull!

they can heal, protect, deal a good amout of damg and solo alot of places.

Anet illogical? haha

He was referring to players that only had Nightfall, and thus could not unlock ritualist skills. Thus having a ritualist hero in Nightfall would be useless unless that player had bought Factions as well, I guess.

kazjun · Dec 01, 2006, 02:44 AM // 02:44

Hero skill trainers offer skills, and there are rit monsters around you can cap sig. You wouldn't have the vast amount of variety a factions owner would have, but surely you can find 8 skills that work from whats available.

Um, are you sure he's available to people without factions? Zenmai was in the manual too, and you couldn't actually get her without factions you know...
Or could you unlock with pvp? Not sure, got her and olias as soon as nightfall was released.

Geishe · Dec 01, 2006, 03:05 AM // 03:05

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Originally Posted by black_mamba

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suffer? useless? I dont know about you, but I think rits are very usefull!

they can heal, protect, deal a good amout of damg and solo alot of places.

Anet illogical? haha

My primary is a ritualist. Im only talking about NF owners with NO skills for their ritualist hero. Then to them, wont they be useless?

Anet illogical, no, but limiting their customer satisfaction, yes. I do love NF, but a tad unfair for those players >.<

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Originally Posted by Avarre

He was referring to players that only had Nightfall, and thus could not unlock ritualist skills. Thus having a ritualist hero in Nightfall would be useless unless that player had bought Factions as well, I guess.

Ohhh thanks, I thought it was me who had messed up english >.<

Scutilla · Dec 01, 2006, 03:11 AM // 03:11

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Originally Posted by Lyonette

maybe anet needs to be abit clearer when they want to drop hints to avoid misinterpretation... i mean c'mon... intially they said "new armor upgrade options"... what do you expect us to think?

Well, you have to admit, jumping to conclusions and then complaining when your initial guess was wrong is a bit silly

Sanji · Dec 01, 2006, 03:13 AM // 03:13

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Originally Posted by Geishe

Anet illogical, no, but limiting their customer satisfaction, yes. I do love NF, but a tad unfair for those players >.<

Not unfair at all, nothing is stopping them from buying Factions.

If you want access to a chapter's skills and professions, you have to cowboy up and buy it. Anet has made no bones about this business model.

Geishe · Dec 01, 2006, 03:16 AM // 03:16

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Originally Posted by Sanji

Not unfair at all, nothing is stopping them from buying Factions.

If you want access to a chapter's skills and professions, you have to cowboy up and buy it. Anet has made no bones about this business model.

Very true, still unfortunate for NF peops buying the game, reading the manual (Razah is infamously placed in it) and realizing that they must buy a previous game.

But it does give some incentives to buy factions.

Lyonette · Dec 01, 2006, 03:19 AM // 03:19

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Originally Posted by Scutilla

Well, you have to admit, jumping to conclusions and then complaining when your initial guess was wrong is a bit silly

but but but.... ok i give in :P

i'm just annoyed at the decrease in armor options and i was from the release of NF...

Tide to Go · Dec 01, 2006, 03:20 AM // 03:20

sry to break the topic of the armor it has been stated in the guild wars website........the new armor is for heroes. Yes it sucks but.....we deal with it atleast they gave armor and i bet its bad grass.

Lyonette · Dec 01, 2006, 03:25 AM // 03:25

dude, i'm sorry that u posted w/o reading, becuz that was alrdy established previously... >_>

LoKi Foxfire · Dec 01, 2006, 03:56 AM // 03:56

There's some new NPCs in Abbadon's Gate. Maybe he's the keeper to the Domain of Anguish or the elite mission?

Sidra · Dec 01, 2006, 04:00 AM // 04:00

I'll bet Kormir just gives you a quest that lets you unlock the place, but the entrance isn't actually IN the Chantry.

CyberNigma · Dec 01, 2006, 04:03 AM // 04:03

Remember that there are just as many new rit skills in NF as there are any of the core classes. There are just no core skills for the rits, but that's still an impressive number of skills (and 10 elites)...

maedrarle · Dec 01, 2006, 05:37 AM // 05:37

It seems they delayed the release a bit. They updated the login news to say late in the evening of December 1st...suck.

garethporlest18 · Dec 01, 2006, 05:41 AM // 05:41

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Originally Posted by maedrarle

It seems they delayed the release a bit. They updated the login news to say late in the evening of December 1st...suck.

Yeah probably around 8-10 PST. Was hoping for it at midnight tonight..but oh well.

Zehnchu · Dec 01, 2006, 05:47 AM // 05:47

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Originally Posted by CyberNigma

Remember that there are just as many new rit skills in NF as there are any of the core classes. There are just no core skills for the rits, but that's still an impressive number of skills (and 10 elites)...

25 total inpressive

sindex · Dec 01, 2006, 08:15 AM // 08:15

Well we probably know what Olias third armor type is then look to page 61 in your Nightfall manuals.

phoenixar · Dec 01, 2006, 08:29 AM // 08:29

I was hoping the armour upgrades was going to be the ability to let Prophecies/Factions armour use insignias.. I take it this is not the case now?

What a joke.

Cacheelma · Dec 01, 2006, 08:54 AM // 08:54

I post this on gwonline but I guess I post it here too.

You know? This whole "new hero armor" thing could be.....just another armor for Razah, and that's it.

And new gems....they might be what you need to get Razah (as in.....quest items) or his alternate armor....